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Debunking “Wacko Jacko” for once and for all!

November 29, 2009 47 comments

It has been a while since we posted our last blog, but we have been doing some research. It’s a lot of information, but we advise you to struggle through it all, otherwise it’s hard to understand.

This blog is to all bad reporters of this world, that should be ashamed of themselves. We are not reporters or Michael Jackson fans, and even we took the effort to dig a little deeper to see what can explain all the things in his life that seems strange at first sight. After this post you all will be wondering the same as we: WHY did nobody see this earlier, WHY isn’t there one doctor that recognized it, or if someone did, WHY didn’t they stand up for him. Now we will stand up for him and we hope all you lazy reporters that only write lies just to sell your story will be ashamed of yourselves. We have no medical background and even we could connect the dots by doing some research on the net. All these years Mike has been bashed, called names and belittled because of his actions, appearances or behavior. No one took the effort to take a look at what could have caused all this. After reading a lot of medical articles, this is what we have found and this is what will explain everything. We are not claiming it to be the absolute truth, but after reading this entire blog, we think you will all agree with what we think is the main cause of all Mike’s actions, appearances and illnesses.

So grab your RedBull and take a seat, here we go.

Have you ever heard about Fluoride Poisoning? Read up on it, it will seriously make you anxious to brush your teeth… We had to translate the following article from Dutch, so some mistakes can occur, but you will get the picture after reading it. It may be long and it may look dull, but the info is significant and we really hope you will at least have a look at it. After reading the article it will be easier to keep up with the explanations of Mike’s illnesses and “weird” things.

Fluoride poisoning

‘Devastating impact’

Proponents of the use of fluoride indicate that fluoride silently may cause damage, but only at high concentrations: adding more two parts fluoride to one million parts of water is associated with a
increased risk of tooth decay, in the form of stained teeth and a concentration of more than eight parts per million would lead to bone abnormalities and degenerative diseases may result. The prevailing views are refuted by some scientists.

Publications of research shows that low levels of fluoride may have a devastating effect on health, in the form of tooth decay and osteoporosis.

While much has been written about the effects of high fluoride concentrations on teeth and bones, little is known about the effects of fluoride on the rest of the body. Recent research however shows, that fluoride can effect virtually every organ in the body and may even be partly responsible for behavioral problems like hyperactivity and many mysterious illnesses, including M.E.

Like mercury, fluoride is not exactly an obvious choice for the dental care. This poison is used as a pesticide and is a component of pesticide against fungal and of products to kill rats.

It also comes in many types of pain narcotics and drugs. The fluoride used in toothpaste and mouth water usually is sodium fluoride, a waste product of aluminum. For fluorination of water, we use hydrofluoric acid or silicofluoride, waste products of the fertilizer and glass industries. The late American critic George L. Waldbott discovered that fluoride is not only harmful to teeth and
bones, but also for soft tissue.

The small fluoride ion, that has a high density, can penetrate each cell in the body and form combinations with other ions, says Waldbott’s research. This process interferes with the metabolism of calcium and phosphorus and affects the functioning of the parathyroid glands. The fluoride ion has a strong affinity with calcium, but will also easily unite magnesium and manganese ions and thus interferes in many enzyme systems that need these minerals.

Depletion of the action of enzymes can lead to disruption of the metabolism of carbohydrates, the formation of bone and the functioning of muscles. In fact every vital function in the body depends on enzymes, and since fluoride penetrates each cell of the body, it can be responsible for various toxic symptoms.

“Fluoride and enzymes”

Enzymes react in different ways to fluoride. Some are activated, while production of other contracts. Lipase, a fat splitting enzyme that is essential for the production of fat and phosphates, required for degradation of phosphate, are particularly sensitive to fluoride. In patients with flourosis
of the skeleton, dehydrogenate is impeded.

In case of chronic fluoride poisoning, this leads to reduced enzyme activity to muscle weakening and even destruction of muscle tissue. Acid phosphates in human saliva is half demolished when exposed to 3.8 d.p.m fluoride.

The amount of the enzyme cholinesterase in blood increases by 61% when it is exposed to 0.95 ppm fluoride, which is less than the recommended levels, resulting in damage to the nervous system. Alkaline phosphatase is an enzyme that determines bone growth and the functioning of the liver, could also be affected by fluoride, even at low levels.

According to scientists from the University of California at San Diego, fluoride switches off the enzyme cytochrome C oxidase, an oxygen-carrying respiratory enzyme. Deficiencies of this vital enzyme are linked to cancer and even SIDS. Researchers at Kings College in London have details of particular strong hydrogen bonds of amide and fluoride, which are formed when amino acids come together to form a protein.

This can result in chromosomal damage. If the protein abnormalities shows, our immune system will no longer recognize the protein and therefore treat it as a foreign protein, which means destruction. This may result to allergic skin disorders and gastrointestinal symptoms.

Stomach and intestinal disorders are the main features of fluoride intolerance. Even small amounts of fluoride may be responsible for the formation of hydrofluoric acid in the stomach with stomach pain, nausea and vomiting as a result. With particularly young children at risk. The use of fluoride tablets in them may even cause stomach bleeding. A nine year old victim was so seriously damaged that large parts of his stomach had to be surgically removed.

“Links with thyroid disorders’

The most readily identifiable feature of flourosis of the soft tissue is extreme fatigue, often associated with hypothyroidism. The thyroid needs iodine to produce the hormone thyroxin, that controls the speed of metabolism. But at the presence of fluoride, iodine is repressed, with the effect that the thyroid does not function optimally.

The para thyroid gland, that regulates the distribution of calcium and phosphorus in the body, is particularly sensitive to excessive amounts of fluoride. More than fifty years ago, Indian doctors have discovered a close link between the fluorosis of the skeleton and hyperparathyroidism, an increased abnormal functioning of the parathyroid. Fluoride even appears to affect the pituitary gland, a mucus-secreting gland that controls growth by regulating the production of thyroid hormones.

Animal studies indicate that drinking water, at which is added the same amount of fluoride as to drinking water in several places in the world, decrease the production of thyroid hormones to alarming low levels.

Professor A.K. Susheela of the Fluoride and Fluorosis Research Foundation of India, a consultant from the Indian government, has more than one hundred published research reports about the dangers of fluoride. Using electron microscope photography, it has proved that if you are exposed to fluoride, red blood cells are early killed, so the level of hemoglobin, the red blood pigment is decreased and anemia results.

It also showed that the calcium content decreases as more fluoride remains in the body. Also, the mucus lining of the gastrointestinal tract gets damaged, with various stomach and digestive problems as a result. The fluoride content of the blood remains constantly rising if you continue to use fluoride toothpaste.

When people are bombarded with fluoride, in the form of more toothpaste and mouthwash, the muscles and connective tissue elements, particularly collagen fiber and bone tissue, will undergo degenerative changes, professor Susheela says. At the American conference of the International Society for Fluoride Research in Bellingham, 1998, Washington, Dr. Jennifer Luke from the University of Surrey in England, presented evidence of the effects of fluoride on the pineal gland in gerbils.

In both desert rats and humans this gland helps the aging process control and the production of melatonin that regulates the sleep and wake pattern . When desert rats are exposed to high doses of fluoride, the production of melatonin decreases significantly, and they are sexually mature earlier. While the results of animal experiments are not always applicable to humans, Dr. Luke theorized that massive fluorination of the water can be the underlying cause of the general fact that children in the West are earlier in puberty.

In areas with fluoridated drinking water, the inhabitants risk dangerous levels of high fluoride concentrations in many of the soft tissues and organs, including heart, liver and bladder. The highest level ever recorded, 8400 parts per million, was found in the aorta of residents of Grand Rapids, Michigan, where for the first time in U.S. History fluoride was added to drinking water. The heart and the blood vessels are affected by fluoride.

Low blood pressure and heart abnormalities are observed in experimental poisoning with large doses of fluoride. In 1950, five years after an experimental basis fluoride to the water of Grand Rapids was added, the number of deaths as a result of heart disease was nearly twice as large as before. The number deaths from of cancer, diabetes and therosclerosis, was also significantly increased compared with the mortality in the rest of the state.

By means of recording the activity of the heart, the Japanese researcher Takamori pointed out that there is a direct link between weakening of the heart and dental fluorosis, in children who had drank water between 0.5 and 6.2 parts fluoride per million parts water.

Fluoride affects the brain and the entire central nervous system. Neurological symptoms such as headaches, dizziness, spasticity of limbs, visual disturbances and decreased mental sharpness are all the risks. Also, tissue damage of the anterior horn cells (the cells to the front of the spinal cord) is determined. By the official annual statistics can be seen that the number of deaths among malnourished children in the Chilean town of Curico, where since 1953 fluoride is added to drinking water, is not less than 104% higher than in similar non fluoridated cities. The average death rate was in Curico 113% higher than in the rest of the country.

“Fluoride & M.E. ‘

Although few scientists have done research into the role of fluoride in the development of myalgic encephalomyelitis: M.E., there striking similarities between the main features of M.E. or Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and the symptoms of people with early stages of fluoride poisoning.

Dr John McLaren Howard of Biolab in London offers important clues for an explanation. He discovered that the movement of white blood cells in M.E. patients relatively slow down when low levels of fluoride are exposed. This effect on white blood cells could be the cause that fewer patients are resistant to infection or suffer exacerbation of their problems.

Fluoride also interferes with phagocytosis, the destruction of invading bacteria, while with other white blood cells it causes the release of superoxide free radicals. This means that fluoride slows down the development of the cells that are needed for the defense mechanism of the body and these cells weaken. For example, bacteria, viruses, chemicals and damaged cancer cells in the body are now enabled to cause damage. Less severe infections will retain longer and thus can cause more serious illness.

This is exactly what seems to happen in many patients with M.E. It is not known how many children have undergone a local dental treatment with high fluoride concentrations before they were victims of infections which have resulted in M.E. Tests by Japanese researchers at the Nippon Tokyo Dental College with high doses of fluoride have showed that concentrations of only 57 parts per million fluoride may be the cause of genetic damage and irregular synthesis of DNA of mammalian cells.

These tests were designed to point out the dangers of spreadable fluoride products to prevent tooth decay, with concentrations of 9000 ppm, 21 Substances Containing 20,000 ppm fluoride, of which it’s alleged that they strengthen the teeth. My son received a fluoride treatment in the autumn of 1979 to prevent tooth decay. Shortly after his health deteriorated rapidly, starting with stomach complaints, several less serious infections and glandular fever, followed by atypical measles, more infections and finally, one years later, resulting in M.E.

Eventually the fluoride treatment did not work to prevent tooth decay, in nine years time, he needed fifteen refills. The American pathologist Majid Ali, associated with Columbia University in New York, states that chronic fatigue is the result of accelerated oxidative molecular injury.

Only a functioning enzyme system can protect us against such injury and ensure energy levels remain normal. With M.E. there frequently are abnormalities in cell membranes, due to increased oxidative pressure that is exerted on these membranes. This is the reason that victims have a lack of energy, similar to what happens to fluoride poisoning. Experienced researchers, who have done decades of research into M.E., assert that this disease, like polio, is caused by damage to the anterior horn cells of the spinal cord. That is caused by a virus that settles in the stomach and intestines. This explains why polio victims are paralyzed or have a bad motor. However, fluoride also appears to damage the anterior horn cells.

And while stomach and intestinal problems are typical for the chronic fluoride poisoning syndrome, these conditions also play an important role at M.E.
Severe insomnia or inversion of sleep rhythm, are typical for M.E. Accumulation of large amounts of fluoride in the pineal gland of animals has led to similar problems.

To date, it is not known whether these problems overlap and to what extent fluoride is responsible for the development of M.E. There is evidence that fluoride contributes to it and worsens existing complaints of patients. It is also possible, as suggested by the Dutch author Dr. H.C. Burgh Moolen that M.E. is in fact a final stage of general poisoning with chemicals and fluoride, and fluoride should be considered as one of the largest wrongdoers.

“Early signs of fluoride poisoning ‘

Scientists that have studied 112 cases of fluoroses in Ontario, Ohio, Italy and British
Columbia, discovered the next collective symptoms, that seem to reveal before the bones are affected:

Musculoskeletal: arthritis, especially in the neck, cervical and lumbar, muscle pain, pins and needles and coordination problems.

Digestive tract: stomach pain, nausea, vomiting, a swollen abdomen, diarrhea, constipation, severe shooting pain in the abdomen and inflammation in the mouth

Neurological: on migraine-like headaches, blurred vision moving spots, convulsions, muscle fibrillation

Respiratory: nasal and conjunctiva problems, emphysema, asthma and nasal bleeding

Other symptoms: cough, excessive phlegm, breathing difficulties, sores in the mouth, bleeding gums, heart palpitations, dizziness, difficulty sleeping, extreme thirst, frequent urination, frequent recurrent urinary tract diseases, edema of the hands and ankles, joint pain, stiffness, rheumatic pain, skin rash,
significant mental deterioration, mainly tinnitus memory & concentration problems, extreme fatigue and exhaustion. Many people are bedridden.

“Fluoride, hyperactivity and violence ‘

Several studies have shown that exposure to fluoride can cause changes of behavior. At a conference on fluoride In 1998 Professor Roger Masters in Washington made known that there is a link between the amount of lead in the blood of 280,000 children in Massachusetts and the use of fluorides for the silico fluoride in water, fluoride increases the absorption and toxic effects of lead.

In both Britain and Georgia (U.S) appear behaviors related to lead poisoning, such as violent crime, more to occur in communities where silico fluorides are used than in areas where these salts are not added to drinking water.

At the same conference Dr. Phyllis Mullinix, a toxicologist from neuro Boston Children’s Hospital in Massachusetts, presented the results of a study of the use of two steroids to treat leukemia with young children. One of these include steroids was constructed from a fluoride atom. A further study showed that the average IQ of children with this steroid treatment were significantly decreased, compared to children who received a drug that contains no fluoride.

“How to avoid fluoride poisoning”

To avoid fluoride poisoning: eat low fluoride food, such as milk, eggs, red meat, not organ meat, products with a protective shell, such as watermelon, lemon, banana, coconut, fruit packed in its own juice, pineapple and fruit that is canned in non fluoridated or low-fluoridated areas.

Take adequate amounts of vitamin B6 and C. Take supplements of calcium and magnesium salts to reduce the absorption of fluoride from the stomach and to promote the elimination of fluoride. Provide a healthy body and a healthy teeth by eating varied vegetables, briefly cooked or raw, fresh fruits, legumes and little sugar. If possible, avoid areas with fluoridated water. Avoid the following medicines containing fluoride: Prozac, fluoxetine — Rohypnol, flunitrazepam – Diflucan, fluconazole – Flixonase or Flixotide, fluticasone — Terfluzine trifluoperazine, Fluanxol – flupentixol or Floxapen or Stafoxil — flucloxacillin.


At the bottom of this blog there will be links to Wikipedia articles that might help understanding some of the terms and names in the article.

So let’s filter the symptoms for your reference, you might need it while reading the blog. It is not said of course that someone with a fluoride poisoning shows all of the symptoms:

• arthritis, especially in the neck, cervical and lumbar
• muscle pain
• pins and needles
• coordination problems
• stomach pain
• nausea
• vomiting
• a swollen abdomen
• diarrhea
• constipation
• severe shooting pain in the abdomen
• inflammation in the mouth
• migraine-like headaches
• blurred vision, moving spots
• convulsions
• muscle fibrillation
• nasal and conjunctiva problems
• emphysema
• asthma
• nasal bleeding
• cough
• excessive phlegm
• breathing difficulties
• sores in the mouth
• bleeding gums
• heart palpitations
• dizziness
• difficulty sleeping
• extreme thirst
• frequent urination
• frequent recurrent urinary tract diseases
• edema of the hands and ankles
• joint pain
• stiffness
• rheumatic pain
• skin rash,
• tinnitus memory & concentration problems
• extreme fatigue
• exhaustion
• tooth decay
• bone abnormalities & osteoporosis
• behavioral problems
• muscle weakening and destruction of muscle tissue
• damage to the nervous system
• link to cancer
• chromosomal damage
• allergic skin disorders
• gastrointestinal symptoms
• thyroid disorders
• anemia
• degenerative changes of collagen fiber and bone tissue
• early puberty
• low blood pressure
• heart abnormalities
• genetic damage and irregular synthesis of DNA of mammalian cells
• insomnia or inversion of sleep rhythm
• Fluoride poisoning damages the immune system

Now let’s look at some pictures and video’s of Mike, that can all be explained by the fluoride poisoning:

Vitiligo is a chronic disorder that causes depigmentation in patches of skin. It occurs when the melanocytes, the cells responsible for skin pigmentation which are derived from the neural crest, die or are unable to function. The precise pathogenesis, or cause, of vitiligo is complex and not yet fully understood. There is some evidence suggesting it is caused by a combination of autoimmune, genetic, and environmental factors. It is also common in people with thyroid disorders (one of the symptoms of fluoride poisoning, see the symptoms list). The population incidence worldwide is considered to be less than 1 percent. Non-segmental vitiligo has a greater prevalence than the disorder’s other form(s).

Fluoride prematurely ages the body, mainly by distortion of enzyme shape. Again, when enzymes get twisted out of shape, they can’t do their jobs. This results in collagen breakdown, eczema, tissue damage, skin wrinkling, genetic damage, and immune suppression.

Practically any disease you can name may then be caused. All systems of the body are dependent upon enzymes. When fluoride changes the enzymes, this can damage: immune system digestive system respiratory system blood circulation kidney function liver function brain function thyroid function.

Things wear out too fast – the young body becomes old. The distorted enzymes are proteins, but now they have become foreign protein, which we know is the exact cause of autoimmune diseases, such as LUPUS, arthritis, asthma, and arteriosclerosis.

Signs and symptoms of Lupus:

“My mouth hurts”
Now go back to the list of symptoms of fluoride poisoning and you will find: sores in the mouth and bleeding gums.

“Could have been, I don’t know, I can’t remember, etc.”
One of the symptoms of fluoride poisoning: significant mental deterioration, mainly tinnitus, memory & concentration problems.

It is one of his trademarks, but it can also be explained by the fluoride poisoning. One of the symptoms is migraine-like headaches and blurred vision, moving spots. Also there is a connection between fluoride poisoning and eye diseases like Graves’ ophthalmopathy (’_ophthalmopathy).
“Graves’ ophthalmopathy, also known as Graves’ thyroid-associated or dysthyroid orbitopathy, is an autoimmune inflammatory disorder affecting the orbit of the eye, with or without thyroid disorder”

Exophthalmos ( “Exophthalmos (also called exophthalmia) is a bulging of the eye anteriorly out of the orbit. Exophthalmos can be either bilateral (as is often seen in Graves’ Disease) or unilateral (as is often seen in an orbital tumor). Measurement of the degree of exophthalmos is performed using an exophthalmometer. Complete or partial dislocation from the orbit is also possible from trauma or swelling of surrounding tissue resulting from trauma. In the case of Graves’ Disease, the displacement of the eye is due to abnormal connective tissue deposition in the orbit and extraocular muscles which can be visualized by CT or MRI.”

Mike says he had surgeries to his nose to be able to breathe better and hit higher notes. Another symptom of fluoride poisoning is nasal and conjunctiva problems. Also, Mike once broke his nose and had it fixed. One of the symptoms of fluoride poisoning is bone abnormalities. Once the bone has been damaged, atypical bone development can occur. That might explain the surgery on the nose. Same goes for the bump on his right wrist.

Mike’s beautiful smile, another trademark. But as you can see in this picture, the teeth are different in some pictures. Fluoride poisoning causes tooth decay. That could mean a lot of dental work has been done on his teeth over the years, which would explain these differences.

The wearing of the masks can be explained by different things. Skin rash, but bone abnormalities is also a symptom of fluoride poisoning. If he got small bumps in the face which needed to be removed surgically, it’s not strange he wore a mask to hide them and it would explain the different shape of the face over the years.

Mike often says in interviews that when he was little and had to perform, he often had to vomit and felt sick. Also a symptom of fluoride poisoning.

Vitiligo is sometime associated with autoimmune and inflammatory diseases, commonly thyroid overexpression and underexpression.
Inflammation: An abscess on the skin, showing the redness and swelling characteristic of inflammation. Black rings of necrotic tissue surround central areas of pus.

We are sure there are more things that can be explained by the fluoride poisoning, but we made our point and we think you can all try to connect the dots with the above information.

You might think “Why didn’t he tell this?”… Well he did, in his way. The media controls Mike, but Mike also controls the media. Look at the following clues he left over the last 20+ years and mostly the last 5 months:

“Michael Jackson bought the elephant man’s bones”
Bone abnormality is a symptom of fluoride poisoning.

“Michael Jackson sleeps in a hyperbaric chamber”
Difficulty breathing is a symptom of fluoride poisoning.

“Jackson Autopsy — Singer Was a Healthy Mess”
According to a new report, Jackson had osteoarthritis which was visible on his lower spine and fingers. Osteoarthritis is a symptom of fluoride poisoning.
The report says he was balding and suffered a skin disease. Hair loss and skin diseases: both symptoms.
We’ve previously reported Jackson suffered from vitiligo. As mentioned, vitiligo is linked to thyroid disorders, which is also a symptom.
His heart was strong but his lungs were inflamed. Inflamed lungs, another symptom.

“Michael Jackson was skinny, didn’t want to eat and was spoon fed”
Loss of appetite is a symptom of fluoride poisoning.

“Michael Jackson was Illuminating”, according to Kenny Ortega on Oprah
Fluoride -> fluorescent -> Illuminating.

“Michael Jackson – The Urination Explaination
“Dr. Klein insists Jackson did not molest the boy, and says the reason he could describe Jackson’s genitals is because Jackson liked to pee in front of other people. Dr. Klein said Jackson thought it was funny.”

Frequent urination & frequent recurrent urinary tract diseases, more symptoms.

“Michael Jackson had sleeping disorders”
Insomnia or inversion of sleep rhythm, extreme fatigue, exhaustion. All symptoms.

“Michael Jackson had problems with the in-ears in TII”
One of the symptoms of fluoride poisoningis tinnitus. Tinnitus can be perceived in one or both ears or in the head. It is usually described as a ringing noise, but in some patients it takes the form of a high pitched whining, buzzing, hissing, screaming, humming, tinging or whistling sound, or as ticking, clicking, roaring, “crickets” or “tree frogs” or “locusts,” tunes, songs, beeping, or even a pure steady tone like heard in a hearing test. It has also been described as a “wooshing” sound, as of wind or waves. Tinnitus can be intermittent or it can be continuous in which case it can be the cause of great distress. In some individuals, the intensity of tinnitus can be changed by shoulder, head, tongue, jaw, or eye movements.

“Thaffa cool moof (TII)”, the exaggerated bubble gum chewing, “My mouth hurts”
Sores in the mouth, bleeding gums.

“Michael Jackson’s last gigs in O2 arena in London”
O2 = oxygen. Difficulty breathing (lack of oxygen).

“Michael Jackson died of a cardiac arrest”
If someone has received a lethal dose of Fluoride, a common cause of death is cardiac arrest.

“The Deatbed picture”

Fiji Water: “It turns out that Fiji Water contains significantly more fluoride than any other popular brand. Where there is naturally occurring fluoride found in water ..” Source:
Incontinence pad: Frequent urination & frequent recurrent urinary tract diseases
Orange juice: To avoid fluoride poisoning: take adequate amounts of vitamin B6 and C.
Toothpaste: one of the most commonly known products that contains fluoride.
Glasses case: The problems with the eyes that can be caused by fluoride poisoning.
Air pump: Difficulties breathing
Tourniquet: This made us think of something else, which we will now explain…

The tourniquet, the story that he was “riddled with needle marks” and the story that he was a druggie, makes us think he didn’t get the fluoride poisoning from toothpaste. As TMZ is our leading brickman, we remembered Harvey talk for days about mouth water in the live streams. Mouth water is also known as Sodium Fluoride or Natrium Fluoride (NaF) ( While surfing our virtual bible google we bumbed into an article about Sodium Fluoride, or as Dr. Richard Murray calls it, the obedience drug…:

A quote from the article:
“During wartime, both the Germans and Russians added sodium fluoride to the water of prisoners of war. Were they interested in preventing tooth decay? According to the documentation of the Australian Ian E. Stephen (1987), both Germans and Russians used fluoridation because they had discovered that it made their prisoners “stupid and docile” (Well Mind Association22).

This “human” experiment was not original. Apparently, the obedience drug-like effect was borrowed from animal studies that showed that breeders of intractable bulls had routinely used sodium fluoride to successfully tranquilize bulls for easier handling.”

Mo remembered Judy Garland’s story and we have found some striking resemblances between her and Mike, read this:

Judy Garland ~ Over The Rainbow

The life of Judy Garland, the world’s most know child star, has been the subject of many books. Through a career that spanned 45 of her 47 years, Judy attained international stardom as an actress in musical and dramatic roles, as a recording artist, and on the concert stage.

Judy’s life was a bitch, she had to fight many battles, personal as well as professional battles. Please allow us to tell you the story of her life…

Judy was born June 10, 1922. Her first appearance came at the age of two-and-a-half when she, together with her two older sisters Mary Jane “Suzy” and Dorothy Virginia “Jimmie”, on the stage of her father’s movie theatre during a Christmas show and sang a chorus of Jingle Bells. Their performances at their father’s theatre continued for the next few years.

In June 1926 the family moved to California, after rumours that her father had made sexual advances toward male ushers at his theatre. Her father, Frank, purchased and operated another theatre in Lancaster, and her mother, Ethel, acting as their manager, began working to get her daughters into motion pictures. Judy was only 4 years old then, and had nothing to say about it.

Ethel dragged her out on the road from town to town, pushing Judy to exhaustion. To keep her going, Ethel started to give Judy pep pills for energy, followed by sleeping pills at the end of the day.

She was always lonesome, and the only time she felt accepted or wanted was when she was on stage performing. The stage was her only friend – the only place where she could feel comfortable. It was the only place where she felt equal and safe. These are Judy’s own words, it’s heartbreaking when you realize she was just so little then…

In August 1935 the trio was broken up, and Judy was signed to a contract with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. She came under the influence of the studio’s boss Louis B. Mayer. He saw that her natural screen presence had the potential to turn her into a star and was soon running virtually every aspect of her life. “In our house the word of Louis B Mayer became the law,” Judy said later.

Mayer sexually molested Judy in his office. He told her that as he put a hand on her left breast that she “sang from the heart”. Judy once said that she often thought she was lucky she didn’t sing from another part of her body. When Judy finally was brave enough to tell him to back off, he wept in shame. After that he told the other MGM executives that Judy was “available” and she had to fend off their advances. This makes you wonder where her mother was when this happened, or if Judy could even tell her mother what was going on…

Judy was the big money-maker at MGM at the time, a big success, but she was the ugly duckling, Charles Walters, who directed Judy in a number of films said. It had a very damaging effect on her emotionally for a long time, it most likely lasted forever. Her insecurity was worsened by the attitude of Mayer, who referred to her as his “little hunchback”.

She had to wear removable caps on her teeth and rubberized disks to reshape her nose, and Mayer said she looked like a little fat monster. Mayer even sent people to spy on her to see if she was sticking to her daily diet of chicken soup, black coffee and 80 cigarettes to curb her appetite. Cheating would result in a reprimand and a trip to a doctor to be given diet pills, which gave her insomnia.

To keep up with the frantic pace of making one film after another, Judy and other young performers were constantly given amphetamines, as well as barbiturates to take before bed. For Judy, this regular dose of drugs led to addiction and a lifelong struggle, and contributed to her eventual demise. She later resented the hectic schedule and felt that her youth had been stolen from her by MGM.

We won’t get in too deep on Judy’s professional career, as that had been done many times before. We want to focus on the personal aspects, on all she had to go through. We do however want to mention “The Wizard of Oz”. Mayer wanted Shirley Temple for the role of Dorothy, but she was signed with 20th Century Fox and was didn’t get permission. The role went to Judy. She was initially outfitted in a blonde wig for the part, but the producers decided against it shortly into filming. Her breasts were bound with tape and she was made to wear a special corset to flatten out her curves and make her appear younger. Her blue gingham dress was also chosen for its blurring effect on her figure.

The Wizard of Oz was a tremendous critical success, and Judy received an Academy Juvenile Award for her performance. However, the phenomenal success of The Wizard of Oz bound her closer to MGM, and she became one of MGM’s most bankable stars.

The studio even controlled her romantic involvements. Judy fell in love with and married composer David Rose in 1941. MGM, however, did not approve this and later forced Judy to have an abortion. They divorced in 1945.

Judy next married Vincente Minnelli, who directed her in the musical Meet Me In St Louis. They had daughter Liza in 1946, which triggered Judy’s post-natal depression. It didn’t take long before rumours of Vincente’s homosexuality reached Judy.

In April 1947, during shooting The Pirate, Judy suffered a nervous breakdown and was placed in a private sanatorium. Three months later she undertook her first suicide attempt.

A year later the film The Barkleys of Broadway went into rehearsals with Judy, but it was soon clear that she would not be physically and emotionally able to do it. It has been written that Judy was taking prescription sleeping medication along with illicitly obtained pills containing morphine. These, in combination with migraine headaches, led her to miss several shootings days in a row. During the shooting of her next two films she was suspended due to failed to appear on the set. MGM fired her in 1950.

In 1951 Judy divorced Vincente Minnelli and it’s said that drinking and drugs took hold. She attempted suicide again and suffered several nervous breakdowns.

Judy hired Sid Luft as her manager and he organised a series of concerts in Europe and New York which were a huge success. The couple married and daughter Lorna was born in November 1952, followed three years later by son Joe.

So successful was her comeback that, despite still being personally unstable, she returned to the screen to star in what many consider to be her finest movie, 1954’s A Star Is Born. She was nominated for an Oscar but when it went to Grace Kelly instead, Judy was devastated.

“I think it was the beginning of her downfall,” said Lauren Bacall. “She was crushed by it.”

Luft, a trained boxer, discovered Judy’s infidelity (with, among others, Frank Sinatra) and dealt with it using his fists on her. Now in her 30s it took some time to finally leave her abusive partner in 1964. She was also forced to snatch her children away from him with the help of four private detectives.

Marriage number four was to actor Mark Herron and was short-lived when he turned out to be gay. Judy’s concerts then deteriorated and audiences often walked out in disgust.

Her drug and alcohol consumption increased, her weight fluctuated and her finances were in a mess. What affected her most, however, was her inability to find true love. “If I’m such a legend, why am I so lonely?” she once asked.

Meeting musician and producer Mickey Deans changed all that but this brief stab at happiness was also destined for failure.

Just weeks into their marriage, Judy’s mood swings and drug dependency were already causing problems. On June 21, 1969, a row broke out in their Lon don home which spilled into the street. Mickey was unable to calm the screaming Judy so he stormed off.

On his return, he found his wife slumped naked and lifeless on the toilet, dead from an accidental overdose of barbiturates. At 47, Judy Garland had finally succumbed to the addiction, despair and torment that had dogged her for much of her tragic life.

Right to the end, however, she hoped that her life was finally turning around for the better. She admitted that meeting Deans was the best thing that had ever happened to her. He was strong and supportive – and not gay. “This is it,” she said. “For the first time in my life, I am really happy. Finally, finally, I am loved.”

But Judy’s problems were too entrenched and her death in Chelsea seemed inevitable.

“I tried my damnedest to believe in that rainbow that I tried to get over and I couldn’t,” she once said. “I just couldn’t.”

The coroner, Gavin Thursdon, stated at the inquest that the cause of death was “an incautious self-over dosage” of barbiturates; her blood contained the equivalent of ten 1.5-grain (97 mg) Seconal capsules. Thursdon stressed that the overdose had been unintentional and that there was no evidence to suggest she had committed suicide. Judy’s autopsy showed that there was no inflammation of her stomach lining and no drug residue in her stomach, which indicated that the drug had been ingested over a long period of time, rather than in one dose. Her death certificate stated that her death had been “accidental.” Even so, a British specialist who had attended Judy said she had been living on borrowed time due to cirrhosis of the liver.

The sad story of Judy’s life shows how much she was controlled. From childhood Judy was placed on drugs – to lose weight or to go to sleep or to wake up. To keep her going, her mother started to give Judy pep pills for energy, followed by sleeping pills at the end of the day.”

Later on, whilst under contract with MGM, she was fed amphetamines as well as barbiturates to keep her going. She was fed drugs to control her weight and increase her productivity Next to that, MGM controlled her personal life, they even forced her to have an abortion.

We don’t know if the Seconal (a barbiturate derivative drug) which caused her death was a result of a drug addiction developed by the forced ingestion of barbiturates by MGM, or if it was still administered. We do know that this story of Judy’s life is true, as it’s based on her own audio recordings. It shows how stars are controlled in every aspect, in order to keep the money making machine going.

This makes you think again about the cause of the addictions and deaths of stars like Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin and Kurt Cobain…


Judy Garland Speaks:

Now before we end this post, we would like you to take another look at some of Mike’s lyrics:

This Time Around

Enough said for now…All you reporters that ever addressed Mike as Wacko Jacko, we hope you have the blood risen to your heads and feel deeply ashamed. If not, you have serious social issues or should we say: YOU WOULD BE HEARTLESS.

If you all would really be such great reporters, do you jobs and read into this and clear his name, that would be THE LEAST you could do.

We rest our case…for now.

Links that might help understanding the fluoride poisoning article:

Michael Jackson’s This Is It ~ Documentary or Mockumentary?

November 16, 2009 29 comments

So we finally have made our analyse of the This Is It movie, or as we like to call it: mockumentary.

Before we proceed we’d like to say that there is nothing wrong with the movie itself. Kenny did a great job editing, no comment on that. The clips shot at Culver look awesome, I hope we will see them fully one time. Dancers, background vocals and musicians: great! Michael’s voice sounds fantastic, even though he is not giving 100%.
No, it’s the MJ’s in action we would like to review and the lack of normal footage of him in close-up without sunglasses. We will not analyze faces, because that is impossible. Face shots are snippets, he’s wearing sunglasses, the footage is too dark or it’s not close enough to see clearly. It’s the movements we will analyze. Also you all must have heard that there are different versions, we just watched one of them, otherwise it would be a mess.

For those who haven’t got it yet, you can watch it here:
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First we have the dancers, what a drama and overacting. Particularly Shannon Holzapffel. We looked at eachother in the cinema and had to stop ourselves from laughing our asses off.
Then we hear Kenny say some things, the Lightman part and some special effects, before we start with the first song:

Wanna be startin’ somethyin’

Our keyplayers:
– Red-pants
– Suit-guy

First weird thing here is that the audio is unedited, while the video is and that’s not only here, but in almost the whole film. So we can say for a fact that at least 1 of the MJ’s could be lipsyncing, maybe even both. The audio sounds new, but also a live recording can be lipsynced, you just have to rehearse it.
Then we have Red-pants. Who the hell is that? We both agree that this is not Michael Jackson. His movements are way off. It looks like he is not in control of his arms and legs and the dancing is far from what we are used to from MJ.
Suit-guy is a different story. His movements look way more familia. We are not 100% on it at all, because we do not see his face clearly, we do not hear him talk while looking in the camera, so he could also be a double that can move, but based on the movements, he could be Michael Jackson.

The auditions of the dancers

Well, we only see a snippet of MJ, but in our opinion, it’s not him. The eyes are small and he lookes almost Asian.


Our keyplayers:
– Red-pants
– Suit-guy

Actually exactly the same as with Wanna be startin’ somethyin’. Red-pants no way, Suit-guy could be him.


Our keyplayers:
– Red-pants
– Suit-guy
– Gold-pants
– Cool moof (black O2 shirt)

Chomp chomp, defa cool moof…. Oh my, here we almost pissed our pants and got banned from the cinema. WHO THE HELL IS THAT?? Well, at least it was funny. His movements are sharp though, maybe he had a dentist appointment just before that rehearsal…
The other ones? The footage is too short to comment on, so we won’t.

They don’t care about us

Our keyplayer:
– Suit-guy

Is this MJ? Hmmmm, we are again not sure. It also seems we see 2 different persons in the same outfit. The special effects with the army is great though.
The audio is not a live recording. We compared it with the They don’t care about us/History footage of the History tour and it’s exactly the same. So this is a lipsync for sure.
Another thing that is odd is that we watched two different clips of this: the one released short after June 25 by AEG and the clip from the movie, and there is a part with the guitarist that was shot from a different angle. That would be impossible, since the cameraguy claimed in an interview that everything was recorded with just 1 camera.

Human Nature

Our keyplayers:
– Red-pants
– Suit-guy
– Gold-pants
– Penguin-guy

The penguin-guy in the jacket with the pointy shoulders is not Michael Jackson, no way. His shoulders are too small, his movements are feminine and not sharp at all. We don’t think you should be fooled by the ‘live’ audio, this can be easily recorded earlier by MJ himself and lipsynced.
Then we see Red-pants again with an even weirder penguin move, and also Suit-guy and Gold-pants. These last two look like they could be Michael Jackson, Red-pants and Penguin-guy are definately NOT Michael Jackson in our opinion.

Smooth Criminal

Our keyplayers:
– Cool moof
– Red-pants
– Gold-pants
– Smooth Criminal

The clip looks great and we both share the opinion that we see the real Michael Jackson in the clip shot at Culver. Red-pants is off again with the moves, we think we can even say the guy can’t dance, or he’s trying hard pretending and Cool moof just doesn’t look like Michael Jackson. Smooth Criminal has great moves and Gold-pants looks ok too, so maybe that could be him? Again not sure, just going by the movements.

The way you make me feel

Our keyplayers:
– Blackie
– Red-pants
– Blue blouse

Blackie knows all his songs and records accoring to the keyboardplayer….well that should be of use if you are MJ and have to perform them on 50 gigs…weird thing to say. We think the guy meant that this double did his homework, ’cause it ain’t Michael Jackson.
And then again Red-pants… That ‘guy’ is so off! He flies over the stage like a guy fairy. No way this is Michael Jackson, looks more like a woman to us.
Blue blouse is manly and has broad shoulders and the movements look familiar. This one is on our doubt-list.

Jackson 5 Medley

Our keyplayer:
– Blue blouse

It seems live, and Blue blouse is on our doubt-list, so this could be Michael Jackson. What we do think is weird, is that he looks insecure and not used to the in-ear. He has been on stage his whole life, did he never wear one? Movements familiar, so Blue blouse is still on the doubt-list.

Shake your body

Our keyplayers:
– The dancers

It is obvious that they are promoting new talent. The dancers are awesome and this clip shows it. I bet they will be booked like crazy.

I just can’t stop loving you

Our keyplayer:
– Penguin-guy

To us this was more like I just can’t stop laughing at you. No way that was Michael Jackson, we even dare to say: no way that’s a guy! He is not sexy AT ALL, and I think Judith’s face at the end says it all. How can people even think this is MJ? We almost pissed our pants again and the ‘true fans’ in the cinema really wanted to kill us at that point.


Our keyplayers:
– Red-shirt
– Ed Hardey-pants

New clip looks fantastic, but 3D at a concert? Wanna give them all 3D-glasses? And what about the people in the back?
Red-shirt doesn’t even dance, so no comment on him, except that we don’t think he’s Michael Jackson, Ed Hardey-pants has the moves and is absolutely on our doubt-list.

Beat It

Our keyplayers:
– Lift-guy
– Red-shirt
– Silver Jacket

Lift-guy could be MJ, we have no reason to expect he is not, so on our doubt-list. Red-shirt has the moves, but we are not sure about him. Why the glasses? Something to hide Red-shirt? At least the guy can dance. Silver Jacket is on our doubt-list, he could be MJ and this is absolutely not the same guy as Red-pants, who also wears that silver jacket. But again, not sure.

Black or White

Our keyplayers:
– 2 Jackets
– White blouse

2 Jackets seems to be singing live and gives us the MJ-vibe, so definately on the doubt-list! The guy in the white blouse? Not even near the doubt list.
Good to see that also the guitarists get their moment, great musicians, great performance.

Earth Song

Our keyplayer:
– Ed Hardey-pants

Michael’s way of making us all aware of our planet again, good clip, adorable girl. Ed Hardey-pants was already on our doubt-list, and absolutely holds this position.

Billie Jean

Our keyplayer:
– Blue O2-blouse

Well, he can move, but that is not Michael Jackson. A lot of movements are off and WTF is with the sunglasses. They are obviously bothering him, so why not just take them off? And Billie Jean without a moonwalk is no Billie Jean. Sorry man, nice try, but we don’t buy it.

Man in the Mirror

Our keyplayer:
– Blue O2-blouse

Blue O2-blouse couldn’t make our doubt-list with Billie Jean, and he doesn’t make it with this performance either. Does he have a stick in his butt? He bearly moves…

This Is It – Credits

In the credits of the movie, the song I Hadn’t Anyone Till You, written by Ray Noble and performed by Hedda Brooks, is mentioned. This is performed in the movie ‘In a lonely place’ that is also mentioned in the credits, and of which we see a snippet in the Smooth Criminal clip. We both don’t remember hearing this song in the film, but the lyrics are interesting:

I hadn’t anyone till you
I was a lonely one till you
I used to lie awake and wonder if there could be,
A someone in the wide world just made for me
Now I see I had to save my love for you
I never gave my love till you
And thru my lonely heart demanding it
Cupid took a hand in it
I hadn’t anyone till you.

The song This Is It is listed as “written and performed by Michael Jackson”. The song was released on October 12, and on the very same day TMZ reports:
“Paul Anka says the special administrators of Michael Jackson’s estate gave him a 50% cut of “This Is It” … after he said Michael “stole” the original recordings from his studio back in the 80s.”
Various media sourses mentioned the movie wasn’t even finished days before it went into premiere, so why wasn’t Paul Anka added to the credits of the This Is It song?

Why is The Michael Jackson Company mentioned? If you call them, the phone is answered by MJJ Kingdom.

Dead Reckoning, His Girl Friday, Suddenly, Last Summer, Tokyo John, and The Whole Town Is Talking are mentioned, all movies to our best knowledge, but we didn’t recognize them, or we simply didn’t see them.

After the credits

Our keyplayer:
– Penguin-guy

Final words:

Let’s just wait right there, and have a break there. Let me breath in my own time when/and I come back then. I’m gonna button my shirt, my jacket, I look around, play with them. Snap my fingers and BANG!

Let us say that that’s another confirmation that Michael Jackson is alive and kicking, and that he has a great sense of humor. 😉

So have we seen Michael himself in this mockumentary? We really don’t have a clue. Some are on the doubt-list, but we are absolutely not 100% sure. We think that they should rename the film, because in our honest opinion, because so few people notice that there are so many different MJ’s in this movie, a better title would have been:

This Is It, Michael Jackson’s Big Optical Illusion

The Mike J Jackson ~ Michael J Jackson thing again

November 16, 2009 21 comments


This is quite interesting. While searching again, we found some strange connections again. We have pulled the full records for Michael J. Jackson and for Mike J. Jackson. Although we pulled the record for the Michael J. Jackson that was listed as the owner of Hayvenhurst Avenue, that file is something we didn’t look into very much, because it doesn’t seem to be the Michael Jackson we were looking for. Probably his info is not obtainable, which would make sense.

Mike J Jackson has an interesting document, we will not share this document online for reasons you might understand, but here is some of the info listed in the document. You are of course free to pay $40 yourself to check.

Name and DOB, as we can see he has not the same DOB as Michael, so let’s say that, if this info is correct, he might be a cousin or other relative:

Addresses (home):

Addresses (other):

One of his former addresses, hmmmm, look familiar?:

If he wouldn’t be a relative, why would he have lived in the Jackson-mansion?

His relatives & current address:


As you can see we have wiped out a lot of the information such as phonenumbers, because we don’t want those people to be bothered by hoaxers. If you want to check if this information is right, we advise you to obtain a document for yourself.

After this we did another search for Michael Jackson, now with his Social Security Number, the one listed in the Social Security Death Index:

We got this:

Now look at this info and compare it to the above. Seems like the same person to us…

So can we say, with this knowledge, that the SS# listed under Michael Joseph Jackson in the SSDI, born August 29, 1958, is not his, but Mike J Jackson’s, born August 8, 1958? Clearly none of them died, because they both turned 51 years old in August. Remember the Cardiff Giant, a fake of a fake? This is the same, take an SS# from person 1 and the name of person 2, get them in the SSDI, nobody died…

This clearly states that the (P) for proof in the SSDI database is worth NOTHING, because the SS# does not match with the name Michael Joseph Jackson.

SSDI/SS#~case is now definately closed for us.

It Takes Two To Tango – Part 2

November 16, 2009 13 comments


In our last theory about Michael Jackson having a twin brother we stated it would be our last post. Well apparently we both had our Nostradamus pants on, because it was our last post…on MJHD. We were banned from chat and from the forum, but that doesn’t stop us to write more about our theories for those who are interested.

In our last blog you can read we think Michael has a twin brother, Mike. Because we are unable to pull legal documents, we have to dig deeper into the performances and pictures that we can find on the internet. Now I have 2 versions of the HIStory tour, Live in Auckland and Live in Bucharest. I have always thought they were different, but now we decided to watch more closely. First thing that caught our eye was that the Michael Jackson on the Bucharest performence had a ring on his right hand. That would not be a strange thing, because he was married to Debbie Rowe during that time. But on the Auckland concert there is no ring… What also seems is that the MJ on the Bucharest concert has a rounder face and a wider nose.

Second and most weird part was the Billie Jean performance. We always thought he wore his glove on the same hand. If we look at the legendary Motown 25 performance, he wears it on his left hand. On the Bucharest concert, he wears it on his right hand… So we decided to watch all the Billie Jean live performances, here is what we found:

Glove on the left hand:
MoTown 25
Dangerous Bremen
HIStory Helsinki
HIStory Munich
HIStory Sweden

Glove on the right hand:
Victory Tour
BAD Yokohama
Dangerous Tokyo
Dangerous Munich
Dangerous Bucharest
Dangerous Koln
HIStory Bucharest
HIStory Kuala Lumpur
HIStory Auckland
HIStory Seoel
30th Anniversary NY

Here are some video’s and pictures so you can see for yourself:

The Legendary MoTown 25 – left hand

BAD Yokohama – right hand

Dangerous Bucharest – right hand

HIStory Helsinki – left hand

HIStory Auckland – right hand

Some pictures:



Now if we look at the This Is It poster, it looks like be are looking at MJ’s back, so that means the glove is on the right hand here:


We assume it is MJ’s back, but I think we can also make it his front, the way the silhouette is presented, so is the glove on both hands?

Let me also remind you of the back of the album again, where it says: Always great to sing with my brother. Brother, why not brothers? And what is with the added S in pains with Will you be there at the memorial?

Well, enough said about that, let’s see what else could support this theory. We watched the memorial again. A very interesting speech from Berry Gordy, we all already had agreed on that, but this part I didn’t notice before:

I must say that he’s had 2 personality’s. Off stage he was shy, softspoken and childlike. But when he took the stage in front of his screaming fans, he turned into another person. A master, a take-no-prisoners showman. It was like kill or be killed, (giggles) I mean Michael was awesome, totally in charge. In fact, the more I think and talk about Michael Jackson, I feel the King of Pop is not big enough for him. I think he is simply……I think he is simple the greatest entertainer that ever lived.

We always wondered why he had to giggle, but if this theory is true, this man MUST know the real deal and in that case it wouldn’t be weird if he had to giggle about his words. Also see how he repeats himself at the end.

Another thing that seems interesting, the message from Rebbie in the Golden Memorial booklet. Well actually the picture behind it.

Another interesting picture is from MJ and Janet at the Legend Awards.

MJ is wearing 2 gloves, instead of one. LaToya also claims he’s buried in 2 gloves… Why did we all wonder? Well, maybe because this was a special award to them and the earned it both, but only one was able to pick it up. Maybe that’s the reason for wearing 2 gloves. As for the burial it could mean that the worked together as the King of Pop and he died, so they can live seperate lives.

And we have more! Look at the pictures of the brothers both at the memorial as at the burial:

You can see the brothers wear the gloves both right and left. At the memorial they have 2 gloves on the right, 3 on the left, at the burial they have 3 gloves on the right and 2 on the left. Makes you wonder…

This is It, here we have a nice still from the movie:

Now who is that? Hatman? I don’t think so, but we have some nice info on Hatman later in the post 😉

Some comparisations

2 different ears:

And even though we tried hard, it was not possible to match the chins:

An EXACT match on the noses of BAD-MJ and Captain EO-MJ, but the rest of the face is no match:

Now think of what there was said about the graves a the grand mausoleum. It’s pretty plausible that the Jacksons indeed bought the 13 graves at Forest Lawn. Why? Let’s count:

1. Joe
2. Katherine
3. Rebbie
4. Jackie
5. Tito
6. Jermaine
7. La Toya
8. Marlon
9. Brandon
10. Michael
11. Mike, Michael’s twin brother
12. Randy
13. Janet

Maybe they have reburied Brandon there, could explain why Katherine was emotional and she and Joe didn’t attend the after party. It could also explain why we were not allowed to see more then we saw on tv.

An intersting few words from Liz Taylor too in The Telegraph on June 27, 2009

One day Michael suggested that he might drop by. Elizabeth said fine. He said: “May I bring my chimpanzee?” Elizabeth said, “Sure. I love animals.” Michael showed up holding hands with the chimp, Bubbles.
“We have been steadfast ever since,” Elizabeth said.
“Do you see much of Michael?”
“More of him than people realise – more than I realise,” she said.

Oh, and we promised an update on Hatman right? Well we said before that we think Hatman is Ashton Kutcher, at least the Hatman on the burial, see these pics:

Now Ashton’s has a Twin Brother, his name? Michael… 😉

Edited because our bible google didn’t put the right name with the right picture.

Special thanks to Chappie and Wizard of Oz

Don’t judge a person unless you have spoken to them one on one

November 16, 2009 5 comments

Don’t judge a person unless you have spoken to them one on one, ’cause what you hear is a lie…
Crazy stories that people have created. I want to set the record straight that if people hear a lie long enough, people believe it.

Who said these wise words in the first place, do you remember..? Let me refresh your memory – it was Michael Jackson.

Today I want to set the record straight regarding the crazy stories and lies going around about me. Still after I got banned from MJHD I’m the subject of discussion in that chat room. For some reason a few people in there are trying to convince other members, with which I always got along very well, that I was only there to provoke members and to discredit Michael Jackson. Their reasons for bashing me..? It’s a total mystery to me…

These people claim that I have said that the 2005 trial was a publicity stunt. That is a lie. My words are twisted to be used against me and to turn other members against me. Admit it, the trial is the ultimate poison, it can’t be discussed, and it’s the ultimate subject to finish someone off with.

What really happened:

Since I got involved with this hoax I’m trying to look at the big picture. I don’t exclude anything because I don’t have an emotional barrier like most Michael Jackson’s fans have. I have never kept it a secret that I am not a fan, but I also never kept it a secret that I have the utmost respect for Michael Jackson.

When looking at everything that happened regarding Michael Jackson during the last decade, the trial comes in sight as well. I was confused about certain things, and discussed them with Souza. She also was confused. Back then I had befriended another member of which I thought was trustworthy and open minded enough to discuss the unanswered questions I had with. I had a telephone conversations through MSN with this member, and I shared my thoughts. We agreed that what was said between us would stay between us, because the trial is the most sensitive subject. To make a long story short – after looking at all the possibilities Souza and I decided to forget the 2005 trial, as we in no way believe Michael Jackson would jeopardize all he had to loose. It was ‘case closed’ for us.

Soon after I had the telephone conversation with this other member our ways parted. As from that moment we got bashed by this member in every thread we published. That was fine by me, I really don’t care about that, no one has to agree with me and everybody is entitled to an opinion of his own. Soon things started to change, and posts made by another member than the one I talked to, pointing out to the phone conversation which took place about the trial. This person claimed Souza and I said that the trial was a publicity stunt.


The next day Souza was approached by another MJHD member on MSN, who said she was told that we made that statement in the MJHD chat room. No way we ever brought up the trial in that chat room, that was done by another member, and he got bashed for it immediately by all members present at that time.

Now, even after we got banned from MJHD, the false accusations continue. Yes, there are people present in that chat room who tell me what is said and done in there. Yes, I know who are making these false accusations and I know these members have ‘followers’. I also know that other members take these false accusations for granted, and convict me for them. Even members of which I thought they knew I would never stoop that low.

I’m happy there are still people left who don’t take these accusations for granted, and ask me to tell my side of the story. I want to thank these people for their trust in me, and for giving me the chance to tell them what was really said. These people kept in mind what Michael Jackson told them: “Don’t judge a person unless you have spoken to them one on one”.

Please keep in mind that everything I have written on MJHD are MY thoughts and MY ideas. You don’t have to agree with them, you have a mind of your own, so please use it. I had and have no intentions to provoke other people, nor to hunt or discredit Michael Jackson. I respect each human being, and some respect in return would hurt no one.

Thank you for taking the time to read this message.

Take care, Mo

Some fever thoughts

November 16, 2009 3 comments

As I am sitting here at my diner table this night, again unable to sleep due to the fever that was caused by this horrible swine flu, I cannot help but wonder about how Michael Jackson would feel like now.

Although I still believe in most of my theories, I have to lay them to rest for a while and think of the comments Mo & I got on them. I don’t care if people bash me. They don’t know me, they wouldn’t recognize me in the streets and nobody will ever bother me again if I decide to stop writing now. That will be different for Michael. He cannot walk the streets anonymous like I can. All the hateful things that have been written about him are almost printed on his forehead. People will stop and stare, bash him, call him names, laugh at him, hate him… And for what? The man has never been convicted for any crime. How can you hate someone so much? Hate only comes from love. If you never loved a person, you cannot hate them. Only someone you love very much can hurt you so much your love turns into hate. I am really stunned by some comments I read from ‘the haters’, those people have issues of their own, their comments have nothing to do with Michael in my honest opinion.

Then there are the ‘true fans’ that love him and want everything from him. They scare me sometimes. They pretend like they know him and own him. As much as he might love his fans, they too must be a ballast. To live up to the perfect image they have of him, must be impossible. Statements like: Michael would never do that, Michael is perfect… How would they know that? Please enlighten me for I am not a true fan, maybe I just don’t understand. Maybe I am cold-harted to think he might have his faults and secrets that nobody knows about. Don’t we all have them? Is one of us perfect? I am not, I know that. I have my failures too. A lot of them, but fortunately I don’t have millions that expect perfection from me.

Then there is his family, probably the only people that have the slightest idea of who he really is, what his faults are and they have accepted him dispite them, because they love him. Those people are the ones that are being bashed the most, for whatever reason. Maybe they are weird, but you know what? If I forget about the money, I think my family isn’t much different…

Conclusion before I have to take my next Tamiflu? I don’t envy you Michael Jackson, and there is no way I can get close to feeling what you must be feeling…And I guess I must be a lucky girl for that.

Take care,

It Takes Two To Tango…The Truth, The Lies, The Guilt & Making up

November 16, 2009 23 comments

Not to be rude, but for those that are ignorant and blind and have yelled at us about the Dave Dave thread, do not read further. You will not like this and you will probably not believe it. If you choose to read on and you will not see or agree, that is fine by us, but leave the personal attacks and bashing behind… So get your rain boots and your umbrella’s, ’cause here comes the storm…

First of all we wanted to say that this will be our last post, because this is it for us. We have been investigating this whole matter for 4 months and the outcome is brilliant, revealing and shocking. Our mouths were hanging on our laptops for hours, before we could even speak again. The story is sad, as well genius, why? Because this hoax did not start on June 25, 2009, it started much longer ago…

We have had help. We have been receiving information, photo’s, video’s, documents and clues for months that we could work with. These ‘plants’ as we call them, are legit, we have no doubt about that. Through this way we want to thank them all for their help and even the ones that were send to mislead us, because that kept us sharp. You all know who you are 😉

After our post about ‘Where the Wild Things Are’, we had a lot of comments about thoughts we shared with some people about the 2005 trial. Before you all will jump out of your panties, let us explain what our thoughts are and why we kept looking at the trial. Please keep in mind that this are still thoughts, we have no confirmation or proof at all about this, but it led us to the truth.

In 2003 we have all seen the Bashir tapes. The strange things in this interview is that Michael is holding hands with Gavin Arvizo. Why? Because of the accusations in 1993. Remember that he is a PR-genius. By holding the boys hand on tape and talking about sharing your bed, he must have known what would come next. He has been in the industry for so long, knows exactly what can come from statements you make in interviews. Also we assume there was not a non-airing clausal to the contract he had with Bashir, so he had no control over the broadcast, that seems odd for someone like Michael Jackson.

By investigating the trial, we searched for legal documents about the case and found a site called On this site you can search for Americans and their relatives and order their personal info. We searched for Michael J. Jackson and found him, but we also found something else…

This thread is about Michael Jackson and his twin brother: Mike Jackson. Think it’s BS? Look at what we found and then make up your mind. Do not stop reading here and make a bash-comment, read first and look at the obvious.

We searched Intelius with 4 person: Souza, Mo, Chappie and Wizard of Oz. Wiz led us to two Michael J Jacksons. With those, the search started.
Let’s start with Malachi Jackson, 51 years old, who caught our eye… Could Michael have a twin brother..?!

This was enough to contact MJHD member Peggy99 who had offered her help before in pulling birth records.
Peggy told me that her contact in the USA was unable to pull a birth record for Malachi Jackson. She was told that there isn’t even a birth certificate for Malachi Jackson, only a death certificate. The records showed that Malachi was born 08/29/1958, and passed 08/30/1958.

The Twin idea would explain so many things…and didn’t Marlon mention a twin brother at the memorial? We decided to dig some more…

Chappie ran a search for Katherine Jackson:

Notice the relatives listed here – Michael J Jackson, and Mike J Jackson.

This was enough to give Peggy another call, and to ask her if she could check for Mike J Jackson, born 08/29/1958. Soon after that Mo received an email from Peggy in which she wrote that Mike J Jackson has the correct date of birth. Bingo! Peggy even has mentioned him on the boards months ago, but was told this was another dead end.
Peggy and her contact in New York tried to obtain a birth certificate for Mike J Jackson, but all documents pertaining to the Jackson family are being kept under very tight wraps, and until now we have not received anything.

So…according to the info we got, Michael Jackson is one of a twin… Michael has a TWIN BROTHER, named Mike J Jackson. We were speechless, but at the same moment it made a LOT clear!

Let’s have a look at some pictures here…

Let Obvious Visuals Exonerate

Man In The Mirror…? Don’t think so!!

Now knowing this…let’s have a ‘second’ look at the lyrics of some songs:

Billie Jean
She was more like a beauty queen
From a movie scene
I said, ‘don’t mind
But what do you mean
I am the one?

Who will dance on the floor, in the round’
She says, ‘I am the one who will dance
On the floor in the round’

Billie Jean is not my lover
She’s just a girl who claims that
I am the one
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one
But the kid is not my son

I never knew but I was
Walking the line
Come go with me
I said I have no time
She said don’t you pretend we didn’t
Talk on the phone

My baby cried
And left me standing alone

I never knew
But I was living in vain
She called my house
And said you know my name
And don’t you pretend
You never did me before

With tears in her eyes
My baby walked out the door

Another Part Of Me
Were taking over
We have the truth
This is the mission
To see it through

Don’t point your finger
Not dangerous
This is our planet
You’re one of us

Were sending out
A major love
And this is our
Message to you

Stories buried and untold
Someone is hiding the truth, hold on
When will this mystery unfold

And will the sun ever shine
In the blind man’s eyes when he cries

Now go through all your albums and listen to some songs with this knowledge… Also take a good look at the back cover of the This is It album:

Having two MJ’s on this world would explain a lot of things. Confusions about the looks, about the weight and height, small upperlip/big upperlip, the high soft voice vs the deep low voice, you name it. It also explains all the 7’s in this hoax, Mike is the 7th brother…

For us the confirmation of this was when we saw both MJ’s at work in This Is It.

We think this is what Liza Minelli meant when she said: When the autopsu comes, all hell is going to break loose, so it’s a good thing we celebrate him now…

She points to the autopsy of the ‘King of Pop’. Not Michael, not Mike, but the ‘King of Pop’ died… They want to live a normal life as two seperate persons.

Imagine how it must have been like. Not able to live a normal life, never able to go and have a drink with your brother, always having to lie about everything… This is why we find so many clues in old material, they have been living a lie for decades.

Now will they come out? We don’t know for sure. We have our thoughts on it, but we can also understand that they would be too scared to come out, because the fans put MJ on such a high horse. Think about the threads on the forum about him smoking, or maybe having a secret child. That were things he would never do. Some of you said that if he would really have been disguising as Dave Dave at LKL, you would never have any respect for him anymore, what about this? They have deceived the world for so long, but do you blame them? Think about how hard it must be to get this truth out in the world…

Remember this:

In our darkest hour
In my deepest despair
Will you still care?
Will you be there?
In my trials
And my tribulations
Through our doubts
And frustrations
In my violence
In my turbulence
Through my fear
And my confessions
In my anguish and my painS
Through my joy and my sorrow
In the promise of another tomorrow
I’ll never let you part
For you’re always in my heart

Please understand and help them off their horses, do not let them fall, but catch them. The horse is so high that they would not survive the fall. Would you be mad? Then ask yourself WHY? Why would you be mad? They have given it all, they have given their lives to give the fans 45 years of amazing music and entertainment. They owe us nothing…

Personal note from me:
Clearly, we are not done hoaxing yet…more to come